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Sarah Bull — Mon, 03 Sep 2012 06:07:49 -0000

than the total Army personnel who were killed in all the wars together since 1947? We lose almost 3 policemen per day!!).

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Jules Dillard — Wed, 27 Jun 2012 02:22:50 -0000

The public at large rightfully ask – if US could stop terror attacks after 9/11, why can’t our security system do the same here?

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Marquis Cotton — Tue, 26 Jun 2012 02:58:25 -0000

it that human life, and more so a life of a policeman, is too
cheap? Or is it that we are not aware of the deficiencies in our
security systems?

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Virgiliogs — Sun, 27 May 2012 09:09:36 -0000

And why not, they would think. If the going rate for a constable’s job
is Rs two lakhs and each transfer, especially to lucrative postings
costs a lot of money, why would they waste time protecting the people?

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buenos aires apartments — Thu, 24 May 2012 02:22:08 -0000

I agree with Gupta when he says the police force is hated (or at least
distrusted by the ordinary person today). They are seen as people who
will fix anything for a price. And why not, they would think. If the
going rate for a constable’s job is Rs two lakhs and each transfer,
especially to lucrative postings costs a lot of money, why would they
waste time protecting the people?

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Manoj Yadav — Fri, 08 Jul 2011 09:56:37 -0000

Sir,

You are great.... all the words you said are true and I request the public to implements these things in their life and try to be like as Mr. Ashish Gupta....

Manoj yadav

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learn futures trading — Sat, 17 Apr 2010 10:51:00 -0000

Friends, please become aware of the realities of policing and beware of rhetoric of political parties – the solutions they offer are superficial and will not improve security situation. You can’t build an edifice of security organisation with a weak and hollow foundation.

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I suggest that you do some homework before passing judgement on people

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Buy Reborn Dolls — Fri, 05 Feb 2010 02:02:39 -0000

Everything about the police or authority has their own price. You can only count on your hand who can you trust and would use their authority in accordance of the law. We can't blame him for feeling that way, because police were still human who have feelings.

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YourNetBiz Review — Tue, 24 Nov 2009 07:30:35 -0000

an enterprise and the government job and uniform is just a license or permit. It is also a job with astonishing powers over ordinary people. Look at how the police routinely pump “the accused” with chemicals called the ‘truth serum’?

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Acai berry — Fri, 20 Nov 2009 00:33:05 -0000

I am feeling really bad about Ashok Kamte.It is really a big loss to our country.My best wishes are with him and his family.May god give power to his family.

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London hotels — Wed, 18 Nov 2009 04:29:55 -0000

We expect a first-world police reaction from a third-world police. You will be surprised to know that even today many of our police stations do not have vehicles. As for connectivity amongst police stations, while police stations (PS) have radio communication sets (RT sets), in some States the PS do not have an extra battery to keep the sets working – this means that they switch open their RT sets every two hours to check if there is any event of any consequence! This is when even the poor in our country can afford mobile sets! We still have weapons that are outdated. We have no centralized database to check on identity of person detained.

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viresh_iitk — Tue, 27 Oct 2009 14:00:19 -0000

Policing in our country really suffers from poor infrastruture in various fileds e.g. technical support, living conditions of lower staff and their wards and their number too but the political interference and misuse of political power in making the policing worst, is very much due to weak , opportunistic & currupt senior police officers having the tag of IPS. In fact police services alone can't be blamed and we can never expect from them anything much better or special than any other service personale as all comes from the same society which is engulfed by various unfair and immoral practices. By mechanical means, we can correct only machines not the people or society. Police alone can not be corrected what ever means are used, till a global corrections are triggered. ......In fact in an ideal society , there should not be any requirement of police.......worst thing about the police is that they are having the right to use ' ARM' along with the power of using 'PEN' and this combination becomes many times lethal..In fact growth of crime and coninuity of crime is many times is supported and nourished by police for their more valued existance ! I my self have witnessed the ugly face of our police system...Kamte or any other officer like him deserves a great respect oviously but the characters like him are outnumbered significantly by dirty faces and henous crimes done by personale this services...I again say good and bad exist globally not exclusively in police only ...so if possible think of ways to induce social and people reform...

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Club Penguin Cheats — Wed, 07 Oct 2009 04:06:56 -0000

Merit is not taken into account. You raise a voice against corruption or misdeed in the department and you are fired. I would not be surprised if Mr. Gupta also faces some problem in his career for the eye opening and thought provoking article.

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Krish — Sun, 14 Jun 2009 18:23:36 -0000

I saw this email and find it quite abhorrant people like Shardul just write some crap. I know Ashish Gupta personally and I can tell you that he has spurned a lot of opportunities in IIT/IIM so that he can do what he thinks right. It was with great zeal that he decided to follow his conscience in serving the needs of his country, and not sit in some ivory towel.

I suggest that you do some homework before passing judgement on people

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Anonymous — Sat, 02 May 2009 06:07:01 -0000

You said "You will be surprised to know that even today many of our police stations do not have vehicles."

The ones that do have vehicles seem to put it to good use to collect "hafta" from the street vendors on their "rounds"
I have seen this personally on the streets of Bangalore (Hoysala jeeps donated by Infosys)
How would you have this addressed ?

- An Eyewitness

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Shardul — Mon, 22 Dec 2008 16:35:37 -0000

Link with news about terrorists using mp5s
http://www.dnaindia.com/rep...

Link about terrorists barricading the doors to negate door blasting charges
http://www.rediff.com/news/...

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Shardul — Mon, 22 Dec 2008 16:08:48 -0000

>>> Each political party will make use of another terror attack as an opportunity to malign the other and claim that it will improve security situation when it comes back to power. As if POTA or hanging Afzal Guru will!

No, it wont improve the security situation, but it sends out a signal, that the govt. of the day is focused on dealing with terrorism in a tough and uncompromising manner. Insisting that tough laws against terrorism and tough action against terrorists takes place is simply a way of communicating what needs to be done to the public in a way that they can understand. Anyone who whines about these demands being non serious and ineffectual displays a serious case of naivete about politics.

That being said, Ashish Gupta's laments about politicians, public apathy, bureaucracy and so on is just an ineffectual rant that is a little self serving at best and dangerously delusional at worst. Its not any less dangerous because it is the fashion of the day in pop culture today.. Blaming the politician and self flagellation after all is the Gandhian way.

The venality of the 'corrupt pandu' and the 100 Rs he asks from you in lieu of a challan and his inefficacy in fighting terrorist commandos are two different issues entirely. If they are related, its only because the actor is the same in both cases.

I live in the US, and even the United States with its 1 policeman for 300 people would have struggled to contain such an invasion from the sees. I shudder to think of 10 commandos coming on speed boats and landing on pier 39 in San Francisco on July 4 or Jan 1. Leave alone the US, any major city in the world would have faced trouble against such a commando attack. The fact that nothing has happened in the US since 9/11 is a result of other actions and their unique circumstance, not that they have 1 officer for 300 citizens.

What other actions you ask? Simple, they ignored the whole world and sacked the elite of two countries after 9/11. This put the fear of God in their opponents and they shut down their covert and subliminal war making machinery down.

What other circumstance? They dont have a huge local muslim population. Before someone reminds me, let me say it myself that 99% of muslims dont have anything to do with Jihad, but that means that 1% do. 1% of 150 million is 15 lakh Jihad footsoldiers and that is a lot.

The only way we can win a truce in this war is to turn the focus of our response outwards. Police reform can wait or proceed in parallel, and is important for its own sake, but it can not replace of this outward directed response.

Consider for a moment, the complexity of the Mumbai attack.
1) They trained a batch of 30 commandos for more than an year.
2) They trained them in using different kinds of weapons. They were able to use their grenades with efficacy and were able to use a weapon snatched from an NSG team member.
3) They trained them in hostage taking and negotiation.
4) They trained them in negating standard room clearing techniques used by NSG and other such commando units world wide. E.g. When they were cornered in one room by Sandeep unnithan's team, they knew that NSG would set up a small door blasting charge. They then barricaded the door, so the force of the blast would be directed outwards. This injured the commandos along with Major Unnithan and he was then shot dead.
5) They were trained in Seaman ship and knew how to handle a boat.
6) They were provided with Satellite phones and training to use it.

Such a complex operation requires state support and there is no Army/Police force in the whole world that could have stopped them from creating the carnage that they did.

You can accuse Pakistan of anything, but you cant accuse them of being illogical. They attacked the Indian embassy in Kabul first with a huge IED that claimed the life of the Indian defense attache there apart from levelling a large part of the embassy. They didnt even bother to hide their trails and the attack was traced to the highest levels of the Pakistani govt. When Indians did nothing by way of retaliation, they stepped it up a notch and killed 200 Indians in Bombay and shut down that city for 3 days. If Indians still do nothing that punishes the perpetrators of these acts (apart from talking about police reform) the next step is either a WMD attack that will cause massive causalities or an Mumbai X 4 attack on more than one targets at the same time.

Go ahead and diddle your police reform till that time..

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mg — Tue, 16 Dec 2008 01:35:14 -0000

How can that be a good thing? And then we wonder why it takes us 25 years to build a nuclear power submarine or have problems with the engine for the Light Combat Aircraft (LCA). I am sure there are tons of equally challenging needs on the civilian side as well.
I do not aim to belittle our problem solvers at work but couldnt we use a lot more top notch problem solvers (assuming some of these guys are really analytical, engineering innovators - higher probability but no direct correlation with being at IIT)? As a percentage of the population, a very small number get to this level. We know why a lot of folks join IAS and IPS - I wish conditions didnt exist where these careers were this attractive (things have obviously changed since 1987). We still cant fully staff the officer corps of the armed forces fully while we face enormous challenges - failing (Pak, Bangla) and thriving (China) authoritarian states which aim to harm us. These are existential threats IMO!

So again, I dont question the career choices made here, just that I wish other careers which India needs more than others (technicians - all kinds and yes folks who can and are willing to fight for the motherland) were more prized than they are.

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Sucheta — Mon, 15 Dec 2008 11:02:34 -0000

Are you saying that is a good thing or bad? Not just computer engineers and doctors, even guys from IIM Ahmedabad are with the police. I am told that one of them is now an Officer on Special Duty to the new Home Minister! While another, in Mumbai, was jailed in connection with the Thelgi scam. There are all kinds ... but in general I think it is a good thing if they join the police to serve the country and not to make money.